Author Interview - Susanne Gervay, The Edge of Limits

Monday, 31 October 2022

The Edge of Limits by Susanne Gervay
Released: 1 November 2022
Published by: Flying Elephants Media
Genre: YA Contemporary
Pages: 305
When Sam, 17, treks into the wilderness on the school survival camp, he misses his girlfriend Laura with her belly-button ring. The gruelling physical challenges are hard, sometimes hilarious, sometimes cruel as he treks deeper into unknown territory forced to confront the underbelly of real mateship, sexual consent and the dangers of guys like Watts. Ultimately, the camp winds to the final place of initiation, to the edge of limits, where Sam must choose what he stands for. This is a journey from the city culture of beach parties, girlfriends, sex and consent, to the vast wilds of trekking, abseiling, rock climbing, white-water rafting, sweaty days and freezing nights. This is a novel which needed to be written and needs to be read.
The YA space is one where authors have the opportunity to explore the real issues facing young people through fiction that pushes the boundaries and confronts readers with its raw honesty. It's an honour to host Susanne Gervay on the blog today, an Australian writer who is well-known for her books in both the children's and teen arenas, with a focus on young people finding their voice. In The Edge of Limits this comes to the fore - a novel that goes to the heart of the complexities of growing into the identities that shape us at this turbulent stage of life. 

Author Interview with Susanne Gervay

What are the main elements of The Edge of Limits that make it relatable to its target audience?

‘The Edge of Limits’ is a camp trekking into the mountains with the dreaded ‘long-drop’, no showers, sleeping on rocks, hard trekking, abseiling, climbing, wild rivers, wilderness. There are the boys on the camp, but there’s are the girls too at the parties, beach culture, school. There’s humour, challenges, stories of mateship, enemies, friendship, families, school and personal relationships. It goes deep into the ethos of male identity and comes out with a courage. It gives girls insight in the way boys see them. It gives boys the powerful opportunity of thinking about how they will act. It’s a book that changes you.


A stand-out element of the story for me was Sam's relationship with his grandfather. What drove you to explore the influence of different male role models in the life of teenage boys?

Men matter. Boys matter. Sam’s relationship with his grandfather matters. His grandfather has life experience and he shares it with his grandson. It gives Sam choices. His grandfather is beside him, even after his death, although it takes time for Sam to understand this. As the boys go deeper into the mountains, they confront their search for identity. ‘Heroic’ Luke reveals his father has expectations he struggles to meet. The teacher Mr Seaton, who Sam calls the ‘orangutan’ just doesn’t get the complexity of identity crisis. ‘Fat George’ with his Italian background is ‘beautiful’ although he doesn’t know it. Sam’s relationship with George helps him define who he is. The girls matter too. How the boys treat them from a stereotypical object to discard or not, to that deep sharing of youth. The search for identity is complex and confronting.


There is a strong yet subtly woven storyline surrounding consent and the manifestation of toxic behaviour with a "nothing to see here" culture driven by some of the characters. Given it is such a big issue, did you have any challenges in coming up with how this would come through in the book?

It was hard writing ‘The Edge of Limits’. I had to get into the male mindset. Identification with the character drives ‘The Edge of Limits’. Sexuality is the trigger, but the search for identity is the journey. ‘Nothing to see here’ is on the surface, but there is so much to see. It’s about girls – getting them, discarding them, wanting them where consent is subjective or coercive or real love or distorted through peer group pressure of the Rave Party and the rape. 


Without giving too much away, is there a particular line or scene in The Edgs of Limits which you found particularly powerful while writing it?

‘The Edge of Limits’ holds so many powerful moments. I find it difficult to decide what moves me most. All of it really. This scene with Sam and the grandfather stays with me:-


We were walking back from the river, pretty satisfied with ourselves. We’d caught three trout and dinner looked like it was going to be great. Grandpa had his fishing rod over his shoulder and I was holding the fishing box and bucket with the trout. We’d seen dogs in the area, so when we set up camp we’d been careful to move away from their territory. "Don't trespass," Grandpa said.


But these were looking for trouble. They found us walking back and started to follow, tagging us with low growls.


"Grandpa," I whispered.

 

Grandpa looked back at them. "It's all right, Sam."

 

I saw from the periphery of my eye their snarls, the black undersides of their lips, their yellow fangs, their butcher tongues.

 

"Walk next to me," Grandpa said quietly. "Not too fast."

 

I wanted to run. I knew they’d get me if I ran, but that was what I wanted to do. I started to walk faster. They did too. Then they began to gain on us, worrying the bush, snarling jarring growls. I walked faster, they moved more quickly. I smelt their spit.  Suddenly Grandpa clenched my arm, forcing me to stop. I could hardly breathe. He turned around.  I turned around after him.

 

Snarling saliva dripped like blood. They were going to rip out our throats for sure. I was cold, frozen, breathing razor blades. I looked at Grandpa. We had nothing to fight with. He stared into their eyes and they stared back still edging forward. Then Grandpa started. I’d never heard him swear like that before but he swore then, angry frightening swearing, obscenities of words, spitting out “fucking bastards” “crap dogs”  "bloody animals”  “killing shits" "fuck off”. 


I couldn’t move. The ferals stopped edging towards us unsure of whom this ferocious Grandpa was in his checked flannel shirt. He took out his flimsy fishing rod whipping it at the dogs, then he charged them, my Grandpa with his white hair and heavy rimmed glasses.


They stopped snarling, unsure, then they turned, running like cowards into the scrub.


I learnt something that day.


How did the experience of writing this novel compare with your previous works? I still remember reading I Am Jack and Super Jack when I was a child!

All my writing is inspired by my experiences. When I wrote the ‘I Am Jack’ books I was shell-shocked that my son was bullied at school and I did not know. My kids mean everything to me, but I was so busy working and managing life. When I asked Jack if I could write the book, he said – ‘It helps kids and teachers and parents. So it is okay.’

 

As it is a younger book, I entered into the mind of Jack and his community, and wrote from his perspective. Kids are remarkably resourceful. When Jack is happy and safe, he is adventurous and hilarious. When confronted by the bullying, he tries to keep brave, until he can’t anymore. There is so much in ‘I Am Jack’ and the other books ‘Super Jack’, ‘Always Jack’, ‘Being Jack’.  They are such gorgeous books about resilience and courage.

 

When I wrote ‘The Edge of Limits’ I went into tough territory. It is YA so I wrote with truth. It was so liberating. I did not have to make compromises. I wrote the narratives that capture male humour, challenges, stories of mateship, enemies, friendship, families, school and personal relationships. ‘The Edge of Limits’ take teens to the edge. They can confront racism, homophobia, misogyny, sexual abuse. However more importantly they confront their personal journey of identity. Who they want to be. ‘The Edge of Limits’ is an edgy place to make those critical choices.


The boys in this book all have very different personalities and ways of coping with the challenges of the camp. What were the easiest and most challenging aspects of capturing the adolescent experience in this situation?

During teen and young adult years, the brain that is responsible for reasoning, planning, and problem solving, is developing. When you add puberty, peer group pressure and often alcohol, it can lead to impulsive action. As an author, I go to the hard places of identity. I laughed when there was the leech invasion, but could hardly breathe when Sam witnessed the rape. There are so many choices, dead-ends, feelings of ‘If Not Me, Who? If Not Now, When?’  

I love the personal growth we see in so many of the main characters in your stories and unique, honest voices of the protagonists that shine through. Could you give us a sneak peek as to what you're working on next? 

I am having a ‘rest’ from confronting YA literature and delving into joy. ‘There’s a Gang on Our Street’ stars sulphur crested cockatoos and kids. It is so funny and naughty, celebrating diversity, games, adventures. It has a non-fiction element with lots to learn. Did you know that sulphur-crested cockatoos play tricks? Did you know that kids are just like the cockatoos? Big Sky publishers fell in love with this picture book. Looking forward to its publication in 2023.

About the author



You’ll find Susanne Gervay planting 3000 mangroves in Kiribati as part of a mission for action against climate change. In Istanbul speaking to 1000s of young people about NO bullying. In remote Aboriginal communities supporting education. In a juvenile detention centre sharing books with teenage girls. At the World Burn Congress in New York presenting ‘how the inner person can triumph over a preoccupation with surface scars and know that basic values of commitment, caring and trust are more important than the texture of the skin.’

 

Why? Gervay’s passion is empowering people to be critical thinkers and develop the resilience to advocate for justice. As the child of refugees, growing up with the emotional complexities of parents who had been through the Holocaust, migration and loss, books were Gervay’s source of escape, comfort, insight and courage.

 

Gervay tackles themes from feminism in Shadows of Olive Trees, harmony and inclusion in Elephants Have Wings, extremism and the war in Heroes of the Secret Underground, and consent and control in her new Young Adult novel out November 1, The Edge of Limits. What she writes matters to her deeply and is grounded in personal experience.

 

Gervay has been awarded the Lifetime Social Justice Literature Award by the International Literacy Association, Order of Australia, nominee for Australia for Astrid Lindgren Memorial Award, amongst others. Her acclaimed stories are published in prestigious literary journals and anthologies including the Indian-Australian anthologies alongside the works of Sir Salman Rushdie and Thomas Keneally. She represented Australian in “Peace Story” an IBBY, UNICEF anthology with 22 authors and 22 illustrators from 22 countries. She continues to write for pathways to peace.

 

Her books are endorsed by The Cancer Council, Room to Read, Books in Homes reaching Indigenous and disadvantaged children, Life Education, as well as many anti-bullying and literacy organisations. Susanne heads the Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators (ANZ), is patron of Monkey Baa Theatre, ambassador for Room to Read, Reading and literacy Ambassador for many campaigns and is an acclaimed national and international speaker.

 

You can find more information at www.sgervay.com or contact anna@allaboutpr.com.au.